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		<title>By: Ron Parks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Blur 220i What a Great FUN Bike!

This scooter does what no other scooter has done before – it’s a crossover vehicle. The motorcyclists don’t know if it is a scooter or some new racing sport motorcycle. It is so much fun to ride (so much fun)! Also, it is well made and looks great! 

I was planning to buy a motorcycle but backed off on purchasing a bike because of ALL the shifting I would do driving it around town. Now I have that motorcycle, but one that is twice the fun to ride! The Blur SS 220i.

It is an excellent vehicle I suggest you seriously consider it if you are looking to purchase a scooter or motorcycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Blur 220i What a Great FUN Bike!</p>
<p>This scooter does what no other scooter has done before – it’s a crossover vehicle. The motorcyclists don’t know if it is a scooter or some new racing sport motorcycle. It is so much fun to ride (so much fun)! Also, it is well made and looks great! </p>
<p>I was planning to buy a motorcycle but backed off on purchasing a bike because of ALL the shifting I would do driving it around town. Now I have that motorcycle, but one that is twice the fun to ride! The Blur SS 220i.</p>
<p>It is an excellent vehicle I suggest you seriously consider it if you are looking to purchase a scooter or motorcycle.</p>
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		<title>By: jrsjr</title>
		<link>http://2strokebuzz.com/2009/08/09/genuine-blur-220-test-ride/comment-page-1#comment-7181</link>
		<dc:creator>jrsjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 20:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for setting em straight, guys. That post of mine was poorly worded. I was just trying to respond to Brooke&#039;s comment about scooter horsepower ratings and my point was that if the B220 gets about the same percentage of rated HP to the ground as the GTS does, then it will be a hoot to ride. I didn&#039;t mean to imply anything beyond that at all, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for setting em straight, guys. That post of mine was poorly worded. I was just trying to respond to Brooke&#8217;s comment about scooter horsepower ratings and my point was that if the B220 gets about the same percentage of rated HP to the ground as the GTS does, then it will be a hoot to ride. I didn&#8217;t mean to imply anything beyond that at all, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: illnoise</title>
		<link>http://2strokebuzz.com/2009/08/09/genuine-blur-220-test-ride/comment-page-1#comment-7180</link>
		<dc:creator>illnoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the Blur would compete more with the BV200 and HD200 I would think, and maybe the BV250 and others on the higher end.

Pricing&#039;s going to be key. Pricing is all over the place in that range because the bigger bikes get so much more diverse and complicated, there are a lot of good 200s well under $4k (Kymco People 200 is closer to $3000), but then 250s and 300s generally cost closer to (or over) $5000.

Hopefully they can keep the price close to $4000, if it&#039;s under, it&#039;ll be an amazing value. If it starts to edge towards $5000, it&#039;s going to be a pretty hard sell, I&#039;d think. 

Obviously, there&#039;s a lot of risk involved, in this economy and this crowded scooter market, especially considering the 150 wasn&#039;t a big success. So I&#039;m sure pricing will be an important consideration when they decide whether to pull the trigger or not. Rumor had it that the proposed Blur 200 was dropped because the performance increase over the 150 wasn&#039;t worth the difference in cost. That bike just had an upgraded top end, so even though the performance of the 220 is not in doubt, the added cost of EFI, a whole new engine, and other upgrades might be more than the U.S. market will want to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the Blur would compete more with the BV200 and HD200 I would think, and maybe the BV250 and others on the higher end.</p>
<p>Pricing&#8217;s going to be key. Pricing is all over the place in that range because the bigger bikes get so much more diverse and complicated, there are a lot of good 200s well under $4k (Kymco People 200 is closer to $3000), but then 250s and 300s generally cost closer to (or over) $5000.</p>
<p>Hopefully they can keep the price close to $4000, if it&#8217;s under, it&#8217;ll be an amazing value. If it starts to edge towards $5000, it&#8217;s going to be a pretty hard sell, I&#8217;d think. </p>
<p>Obviously, there&#8217;s a lot of risk involved, in this economy and this crowded scooter market, especially considering the 150 wasn&#8217;t a big success. So I&#8217;m sure pricing will be an important consideration when they decide whether to pull the trigger or not. Rumor had it that the proposed Blur 200 was dropped because the performance increase over the 150 wasn&#8217;t worth the difference in cost. That bike just had an upgraded top end, so even though the performance of the 220 is not in doubt, the added cost of EFI, a whole new engine, and other upgrades might be more than the U.S. market will want to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: pocphil</title>
		<link>http://2strokebuzz.com/2009/08/09/genuine-blur-220-test-ride/comment-page-1#comment-7178</link>
		<dc:creator>pocphil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the Blur 220 even fighting with the GTS250/300 for the same customer? Seems like the folks we sell the GTS to couldn&#039;t care less about a modern styled scooter. 

I never have a customer in my shop who is seriously going back n&#039; forth between a GTS250 and a Citycom 300 or Grand Vista 250. 

I think the Blur 220 e.f.i. and Retro-Touring Scooter 300 are both important additions to the Genuine line. Putting a top floor on the best supported and best marketed brand in the US could ensure market dominance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the Blur 220 even fighting with the GTS250/300 for the same customer? Seems like the folks we sell the GTS to couldn&#8217;t care less about a modern styled scooter. </p>
<p>I never have a customer in my shop who is seriously going back n&#8217; forth between a GTS250 and a Citycom 300 or Grand Vista 250. </p>
<p>I think the Blur 220 e.f.i. and Retro-Touring Scooter 300 are both important additions to the Genuine line. Putting a top floor on the best supported and best marketed brand in the US could ensure market dominance.</p>
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		<title>By: jrsjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrsjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC, the Vespa GTS puts  about15 1/2 HP down on the ground. If the B220 can put 12-13 HP down on the ground, it would be a HOOT to ride.The thing is, the Blur looks the goods and it handles and stops like the goods, but a B220 is going to have to go like the goods or it&#039;s not going to succeed regardless of the price point or color scheme or financing. 

My $0.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, the Vespa GTS puts  about15 1/2 HP down on the ground. If the B220 can put 12-13 HP down on the ground, it would be a HOOT to ride.The thing is, the Blur looks the goods and it handles and stops like the goods, but a B220 is going to have to go like the goods or it&#8217;s not going to succeed regardless of the price point or color scheme or financing. </p>
<p>My $0.02</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would take any HP rating given from the manufacturer with great caution.  If there were only scooter magazines that would test them like motorcycle magazines it would be great.  Just don&#039;t forget to block the variator to get a true reading.  No one ever seems to do it correctly in any of the English language reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would take any HP rating given from the manufacturer with great caution.  If there were only scooter magazines that would test them like motorcycle magazines it would be great.  Just don&#8217;t forget to block the variator to get a true reading.  No one ever seems to do it correctly in any of the English language reports.</p>
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		<title>By: jrsjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrsjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.P.S. Thanks for bringing us the news on the new Genuine products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.P.S. Thanks for bringing us the news on the new Genuine products.</p>
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		<title>By: jrsjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrsjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 220 Blur with the flux-capacitor rear suspension? Yikes! Everybody who&#039;s ever ridden a 150 Blur will know what a great idea that is. But there are two problems with the idea. One is price and the other is that the total number of folks in the United States who have ridden a Blur is around 1000. Kudos to Genuine for doing the gutsy thing and trying again with what many of us know to be one of the great scooters, ever. This time, right out of the gate, Genuine needs to hit the right price point with the right color combo and a financing deal and hope the economy keeps picking up.

P.S. Bb, you really should try the HD. It&#039;s pretty good, it really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 220 Blur with the flux-capacitor rear suspension? Yikes! Everybody who&#8217;s ever ridden a 150 Blur will know what a great idea that is. But there are two problems with the idea. One is price and the other is that the total number of folks in the United States who have ridden a Blur is around 1000. Kudos to Genuine for doing the gutsy thing and trying again with what many of us know to be one of the great scooters, ever. This time, right out of the gate, Genuine needs to hit the right price point with the right color combo and a financing deal and hope the economy keeps picking up.</p>
<p>P.S. Bb, you really should try the HD. It&#8217;s pretty good, it really is.</p>
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		<title>By: illnoise</title>
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		<dc:creator>illnoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know the precise displacement, but the performance seemed on par with the displacement, if not better, and it would be very strange to round up anything under 210cc to 220, so I imagine it&#039;s close to what&#039;s advertised.

It has an oil cooler like the original Blur, but yes, it&#039;s air-cooled. But I think you&#039;re right about it&#039;s niche in the market, it&#039;s fairly small for its displacement. (150cc frame with 200 or 250cc-ish performance.)

I know everyone loves the HD200, and SYM&#039;s offered me the chance to try out any bikes, but I haven&#039;t had a chance to try the HD yet. I think the HD is pretty blah-looking, though, so unless riding it offered some serious user-experience revelations, if they&#039;re priced similarly, I&#039;d go with the Blur just on looks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know the precise displacement, but the performance seemed on par with the displacement, if not better, and it would be very strange to round up anything under 210cc to 220, so I imagine it&#8217;s close to what&#8217;s advertised.</p>
<p>It has an oil cooler like the original Blur, but yes, it&#8217;s air-cooled. But I think you&#8217;re right about it&#8217;s niche in the market, it&#8217;s fairly small for its displacement. (150cc frame with 200 or 250cc-ish performance.)</p>
<p>I know everyone loves the HD200, and SYM&#8217;s offered me the chance to try out any bikes, but I haven&#8217;t had a chance to try the HD yet. I think the HD is pretty blah-looking, though, so unless riding it offered some serious user-experience revelations, if they&#8217;re priced similarly, I&#8217;d go with the Blur just on looks.</p>
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		<title>By: ScooterNews</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScooterNews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this new bike a full 220cc displacement or rounded up a la the HD200?  Some of the new features seem very interesting (I particularly like the sound of the new key system).  I really like the addition of fuel injection and think we will start to see FI on a lot more scooters in the USA very soon.  

Is the bike air cooled?  If so, I think its going to be the bike&#039;s only downfall as its power output isn&#039;t going to rival a GT(S) (21 HP) series Vespa or any other liquid cooled, large displacement scooter.  Right now this Genuine is putting out about HD200 HP numbers with a 50cc advantage.  That being said, with the new 280cc-300cc touring model coming I suppose it would make sense to create this Blur in such a way that is wouldn&#039;t compete with other models.  In this light the 220cc displacement make sense as it will essentially be the largest displacement small framed scooter in the states with not much competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this new bike a full 220cc displacement or rounded up a la the HD200?  Some of the new features seem very interesting (I particularly like the sound of the new key system).  I really like the addition of fuel injection and think we will start to see FI on a lot more scooters in the USA very soon.  </p>
<p>Is the bike air cooled?  If so, I think its going to be the bike&#8217;s only downfall as its power output isn&#8217;t going to rival a GT(S) (21 HP) series Vespa or any other liquid cooled, large displacement scooter.  Right now this Genuine is putting out about HD200 HP numbers with a 50cc advantage.  That being said, with the new 280cc-300cc touring model coming I suppose it would make sense to create this Blur in such a way that is wouldn&#8217;t compete with other models.  In this light the 220cc displacement make sense as it will essentially be the largest displacement small framed scooter in the states with not much competition.</p>
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