#17: Choosing a scooter on a budget

Today’s question for Dr. Buzz and his panel of experts comes from From Erica P. from up in Wisco:

I am looking for a 150cc scooter, but have a very limited budget of 2,000.00 including T/T/L. I would be using it for small trips within 15 miles of my house. My selections are very obviously limited, and I have been looking at the Vento models, but don’t have any information on their quality. In fact, I can find no information on reviews for scooters in this size and price range. You seem to be very knowledgeable on the topic, could you suggest any models that would fit my specs?

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How Vespas (don’t) Work

Nitro pointed us to HowStuffWorks’ “How Vespas Work” article. The first page is comically full of misinformation (corrected below, for fun). The second page reiterates most of the inaccuracies of the first page without going into much detail on how they actually work, and the next three pages rehash Eric Brockaway’s history of the Vespa and Mods and then link to Vespa’s corporate pages, which are famously devoid of any useful information. It’s a fun, cringeworthy read.

Here are some sample quotes from the first page:

Scooters are two-wheeled vehicles powered by a small engine. Although it’s similar in concept to motorcycles, it has some important differences. The wheels of a scooter are fastened to the end of a short axle, rather than being mounted between a “fork” in the frame.

Well, on a vintage Vespa, this is sort of true (it’s really mounted to a one-sided “fork” or steering column more than a “axle”), but many vintage scooters and nearly all modern scooters feature a front wheel mounted on a traditional fork. If the focus of this story is Vespas, talk about Vespas, but don’t apply their characteristics to all scooters.

The engine is usually concealed in a cowling of some kind, making them quieter and less likely to get oil or grease on the rider’s clothes.

I’ve never heard the noise argument made before, perhaps that was an intention, but noise generally comes from the exhaust, not the engine, and putting something in a hollow metal container rarely makes it quieter.

Today, a scooter can be defined as a two-wheeled vehicle built on a monocoque frame with a 250 cubic centimeter (cc) engine or smaller. There are scooters with larger engines, but they essentially represent a subclass of vehicles in between scooters and motorcycles.

Ugh. The only modern scooter with a monocoque frame is the Vespa, all others have steel tube frames with plastic body panels. Scooters currently range from 50cc up to 800cc (the Gilera GP800) and while the line between motorcycles and scooters continues to blur and the definition of a scooter is somewhat liquid, there’s no reason maxiscooters should not be considered part of the subset of scooters. Aside from maxiscooters, there are plenty sub 500-cc scooters that fall undeniably into the traditional definition of a scooter.

Many jurisdictions legally consider them motorcycles.

Assuming that by “them” the author meant “scooters larger than 250cc”, almost all states consider any two-wheeled motorized vehicle to be a motorcycle, though many have “motor-driven-cycle” classes for bikes under 150cc, and “moped” classes for traditional low-powered pedaled mopeds. A handful of states treat 50cc scooters as mopeds, but not many. There’s not a single state that doesn’t consider a 150cc or larger scooter to be a motorcycle. (Note: OK, reading more, I can see the guy is clearly British, so perhaps he’s right about England.)

Most models can achieve better miles per gallon (mpg) ratings than all cars, but the most eco-friendly hybrid cars are in the 60-70 mpg range–equal to the Vespa.

This statement isn’t false, but it’s misleading and doesn’t even scratch the surface. One currently-available hybrid car gets 64mpg, only one other hybrid gets over 50mpg. Most hybrids get 45mpg or so. There’s no clearly-mandated test for motorcycle mileage, so we have to take manufacturers’ numbers with a grain of salt, but Piaggio’s MPG ratings (60ish) are on the very low side of scooter MPGs, some Yamaha models promise over 120mpg. Realistically, most scooters get between 60 and 90mpg in normal real-world conditions, better than just about any car, so implying that scooters are comparable to hybrids is inaccurate. If you’re just talking Vespas, maybe it’s a more fair comparison, but again, the scope of the article jumps back and forth between Vespas and scooters in general in mid-sentence. (Do the British cite MPG or Miles per Litre? Maybe he’s not British)

Navigating city traffic and tight urban streets is a lot easier on a scooter than in an SUV, and parking is no problem.

Again, maybe that’s the case in England, but American scooterists have always found parking in an urban environment to be nearly impossible, even if they’re willing to pay the same rates as cars. In nearly all localities, scooters are expected to follow the same rules of the road and parking restrictions as automobiles. Lane-splitting is prohibited just about everywhere but California.

They’re easier to ride than a motorcycle…

Not true at all, aside from shifting (and not all scooters are automatics) riding a scooter uses every single skill required by a motorcyclist, and the same training and caution should be exercised whether one rides a scooter or a motorcycle.

and the body panels ensure that clothes aren’t likely to be splashed with mud and road dirt.

Clearly written by someone that hasn’t ventured out into the rain on their new Vino yet.

A scooter is a lot easier on the wallet than a car, as well. A brand new scooter can be as little as $800,

Sadly, this is true, but its totally irresponsible to say that without pointing out that buying an $800 motor vehicle and riding it on public roads is more or less suicide. And the dollar signs are making it pretty clear he’s not British.

Of course, a scooter with the legendary Vespa name on it often comes at a premium (prices range from $2,000 to over $6,000), and vintage scooters go for collector’s prices, sometimes fetching thousands of dollars.

The bottom-of-the-line Vespa LX50 has an MSRP of $3200, which last I checked, is over $2000. Vintage scooters have occasionally sold for five figures, saying “thousands” is weird and vague, since modern scooters cost “thousands” also.

It continues for four more pages, with such nuggets as “Scooter wheels range from eight to 12 inches,” and a sidebar asserting that India and Southeast Asia were responsible for Vespa’s hard times in the ’80s (never mind the ragingly successful Honda Elite!).

Really, for a story supposedly describing how Vespas work, it really doesn’t explore the technical or mechanical subtleties of a Vespa at all, aside from briefly describing how an internal combustion engine works. The original Vespas are masterpieces of engineering simplicity, yet the actual workings of the engine and controls are just barely glossed over, and the centerpiece of modern automatic scooters, the continuously variable transmission, is mentioned but not explained.

Blur 3000km service

I had a Big Merchandise Announcement to make today, but instead I stayed up until 2am writing this step-by-step guide to changing the oil in your Genuine Blur 150. All 23 Blur owners in North America are totally thanking me right now. I tried to make it a little funny, so you might want to read it anyway, just to make fun of how little I know about changing the oil in a Genuine Blur 150. But stay tuned, we’ve got new t-shirts going on sale very soon.

More MPG math:

The New York Times’ always-great “Wheels” blog points out that “miles per gallon” perhaps isn’t the best metric, or at least shouldn’t be the only metric, of fuel savings. A higher MPG figure gives the false impression that the savings are proportional to the mileage. Obviously, a higher MPG rating is always better, but as the fuel efficiency increases, the savings start to level off. Their example is that replacing a low-mileage SUV with an average-mileage car makes a much bigger fuel cost difference than trading an average-mileage car for a hybrid car. Let’s do some math and see what that means for scooters.
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#16: Throw a kit on that… whatever it is.

Today’s question for Dr. Buzz and his panel of experts comes from From Art E. of Fresno, CA:

Please help, I am stuck with a torn apart “Vino!” From what can tell the engine is a Linhai/Yamaha 49.5cc 2-stroke. I checked the engine number to verify it. I ordered an Athena 70cc big-bore kit and the “big-bore” piston has about 2-3mm of clearance in the stock cylinder! Also the Athena cylinder is about a half inch shorter than the stocker. The clutch variator has splines too small to fit on the crankshaft. Primary gears are wrong (the gear on the shaft has a nub on the end where the stocker does not). I have not measured the stock bore yet. What could be wrong? This is the “Minerelli”-style horizontal engine. Please help!

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ABS scooter brakes?

After visiting Dealer Expo twice, I feel entirely justified in questioning the quality of Chinese scooters just based on build quality and looks, but I’ve had limited experience actually riding them. This weekend, I got the chance to ride a cousin’s “Boss” brand Chinese scooter (Qingqi, maybe?). Aside from the steering column’s desire to whip to the left or right if nudged more than a few degrees from center, and a less-than-peppy engine, it wasn’t the worst bike I’ve ever ridden… until I tried to stop.
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Pics from LML Factory Tour

Two pages worth of photos from the LML factory in Kanpur show the most detailed aspects of PX-clone production we’ve seen to date. Credit to the boys at Eddybullet.com and Xytar of the BBS for posting the link.

sidenote : I really wish that PK copy would have made it to American shores. I wonder if those were part of the Genuine / LML smallframe rumors i heard several years back that never materialized.

Genuine mythbusting

Genuine Blur 150 and Buddy 125 owners have had a healthy argument going on since both models were introduced: Which is quicker?. Nathaniel over at Modern Buddy did some tests and confirmed they’re pretty much even in the 100m dash. There’s still debate over which is faster, I’d argue that despite the displacement difference, they have a very similar top speed, but the Blur handles and brakes much better, with this video (the part after the G-Max commercial) as my evidence. Now for the next question, how much faster/better is the new Buddy 150?

MSNBC nails it

Just as I start mocking the rehashed press releases that pop up every spring, MSBNBC posts what just might be the most honest and realistic mass-media scooter story ever written, or at least one of the few to feature real-world advice along with real experience and research, some culled from the ScooterBBS. Bravo! This is the one to send to your scooter-curious friends.

Can your bike’s “face” improve visibility?

Neat story on how some motorcycles are designed to resemble a human face:

[Honda’s tests] found that motorcycles that resemble a human face – especially an angry one evoked with diagonal headlights – are “significantly” more visible to other drivers. Measurements taken with functional magnetic resonance imaging confirm that a more lifelike front-end design “elicits a response similar to that when a human face is seen,”

So, in conclusion, The Blur rules, and Andretti’s “Happy Cyclops” just isn’t going to cut it. (Thanks for the great link, Chandler!)

210cc Buddy!?

After naysaying rumors of a 210cc upgrade for the Genuine Buddy on ModernBuddy, I found Nitro’s photos of a prototype of the 210cc kit (presumably) taken at Scooterworks, from six months ago. So the rumor is this upgrade will be available soon, I still say it’ll be prohibitively expensive and require upgrades to the frame, carb, supsension, exhaust, etc, but we’ll see. The thought of a Buddy with a 210cc engine is alternately thrilling and terrifying.